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Employee profile: David Edwards Legionella Risk Assessor

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Legionella risk assessing

When did you join Dantek?

I have been working at Dantek for 10 years, I started doing monitoring, tank cleaning, remedial works and cooling tower disinfections. I then progressed into Legionella risk assessing about 5 years ago.  Before joining Dantek, I was at another company cleaning and disinfecting cooling towers and carrying out remedial works on cooling towers as well as tank cleaning and disinfection work. So, by the time I came here as a lead engineer I already had a wealth of experience in the industry.

Becoming a Legionella risk assessor?

Most of my training has been on the job, I started at bottom and have worked my way up by building on experience. I am a qualified plumber so that really helped with my career as it meant I have a solid understanding of how buildings are plumbed and how water systems work. Particularly now as a risk assessor I can easily identifying risk as I know what looking at. I have done every single aspect of water hygiene so can draw on my knowledge when risk assessing a building.

I have spent years of my life stripping cooling towers and working in cooling towers so risk assessing them came very naturally as I have a thorough understanding of how they work.

Of course, I do have formal qualifications in legionella risk assessing but I firmly believe the best way to learn is from practical experience rather than academic study alone.

 

Where do you start when carrying out a legionella risk assessment?

I tend to start in main plant areas and work my way from there, generally they are the biggest areas of risk. Start with tanks and calorifiers and then move to identifying blinds ends, dead legs and return loops.  I will also request to see any records or previous risk assessment on the building which can be a helpful starting point, although of course it needs to all be updated and schematics drawn to ensure they are accurate, and everything is up to date.

 

What challenges do you come across?

Cooling towers are challenging, as the legionella risk is potentially so much higher.

Buildings can also be deceptive as a straight forward looking 2 storey building could house any number of systems for example; there could be a lab or have reverse osmosis system, so you need to wait until you discover what is inside.

 

What work are you most proud of?

Herm Island is definitely my proudest achievement as I have risk assesses every single property on the Island.  All the water is fed from a bore hole, so it has its complications.  I go there every 2 years to update the risk assessments and am so impressed as they have carried out all the recommendations I made in my initial risk assessment. Given they cannot just pop to B&Q as they are an island, they must ship every single part and material in order to do all the remedials, but they have done it all and taken everything on board, which I am afraid to say not everyone does so thoroughly.

I also enjoy going into places and finding tank, calorifiers and even taps that people are unaware they even have.  I am often told there are “no tanks in our building” only to find there were hidden behind a panel or roof space.  It is really satisfying to know you have done a thorough job and being naturally inquisitive has helped me to make sure every tank, calorifer and tap are assessed.

 

What are the best features of our risk assessment reports?

I think customers find the asset register and photos useful as it clearly sets out exactly what you have on site.  The risk score is also highly valued by customers because it shows what your risk is now and what your projected risk could potentially be if you put in place the control scheme suggested and carry out the remedial work.

We also explain why the risk score has been given with an in-depth explanation for customers. I think this is good because it helps to prioritise where to take action first to make the most impact to reduce the risk on their sites.

 

What do you enjoy about your job?

I love the freedom of the job and being out and about visiting different places.  I like the trust the responsibility of the job and the satisfaction of knowing the work I do can make a difference by helping to ensure no one suffers with Legionnaires’ disease.

 

What do you like doing for fun?

I really enjoy sea fishing and try to do as much as I can.  I support Cardiff City both at home and away.  I am currently planning a holiday to Vietnam for next year which will be a great experience and hopefully I will be able to fit in a bit of fishing while I am there.

Employee profile: Darren Grant Legionella Risk Assessor

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Carrying out a Legionella risk assessment

When did you join Dantek?

I was the very first employee at Dantek when I joined the company in 2003!  I started my career as a Water Hygiene Engineer; cleaning tanks, temperature monitoring and descaling showers.

I started at bottom and worked my way up to now being one of the lead Legionella risk assessors at Dantek.  I have carried out over 2000 legionella risk assessment surveys and reports, so have built up a vast breadth of knowledge from straight forward domestic hot and cold water systems to cooling towers and industrial process systems.

Becoming a Legionella risk assessor?

Becoming a qualified Legionella risk assessor takes time and for me evolved from being a Water Hygiene Engineer.  It starts with on the job training, learning about identification of risk while temperature monitoring and carrying out checks on water systems.  Dantek have a training programme for legionella risk assessors which includes class room based learning, practical training and mentor assessment.  Once this has been satisfactorily completed the next step is to qualify with City and Guilds, WMS courses in risk assessment.

I feel experience is the thing which really qualifies you and this can only happen over time. You need understanding in order to assess risk.  It is vitally important to understand a system for example; when risk assessing a cooling tower you have to know how they work and what chemicals are being used to treat the system, in order to know how this may impact the assessment of risk in regard to legionella bacteria.

Where do you start when carrying out a legionella risk assessment?

I assess holistically and always from first principle, by starting at the point at which the mains water enters the building and tracing the water systems from the mains, cold water tanks or calorifiers.  It is important to gather as much information from the client, especially about the management of Legionella control on the site and who are the key responsible people involved with managing the risks identified.

What challenges do you come across?

Buildings can be deceptive from the outside, often a seemingly straight forward building from the outside can house a complicated process system which can be challenging, but also the most satisfying to assess.

The report writing can be challenging as the assessment of risk can take time to work out once all the data has been collected and considered.

What work are you most proud of?

Definitely the work I have carried out for the NHS.  I know the guidance; HTM 04-01 inside out and have built up a really strong relationship with Plymouth Livewell and Wonford Hospital, both of which I have worked with for over 10 years.  It is a big responsibility to be working where there are high risk populations but also satisfying to know your work is making a difference.

 

What do you enjoy about your job?

I enjoy the variety of the work and going to quirky places for example risk assessing an abattoir or a military base.  Schools can be challenging particularly when the students are there as they can be very curious about what you are doing.

I enjoy the flexibility of my work, and value the trust and level of responsibility I have at Dantek.

I have a really good friendship with Martin Kingdon (Technical Director) stretching back to pre-Dantek days, and have received a huge amount of support from Martin over the years.  His knowledge of Legionella is vast and I can always turn to him for guidance and reassurance when dealing with the more technical assessments I come across.

What do you like doing for fun?

I love spending time with family and going on holidays. I am a lifelong passionate surfer, there is nothing better than being out on a wet winters day when no-one is around.  I am also a big fan of Formula 1 and relish the chance  to catch up on the latest Grand Prix on a Sunday evening.

When does a Legionella risk assessment need to be updated?

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How often should a legionella risk assessment be reviewed?

Keeping a legionella risk assessment current and up to date is a requirement under Health and Safety law.  By following the 6 key indicators below you will know when an update is required, or if your risk assessment is current and valid and no further actions are required until the next review.

The ACoP L8 does not state a set timeframe for a legionella risk assessment to be updated, it is not a requirement to update it annually or biennially, as so often thought. The frequency of the update will depend on the risks associated with any given system defined in the risk assessment document and changes which effect it over time.

The risk assessment must be updated when the Duty holder reviews it and believes it is no longer current or valid. Depending on the risks associated with the system this could be years’ for a low risk property where nothing has changed, to much more regular updates for a high risk system.

A Dantek legionella risk assessment document will suggest a review date based on the risk factors identified, but should any of the following 6 changes occur in the meantime the risk assessment must be updated at that point.

Even for low risk properties where no further actions were required as a result of the risk assessment, the control measures put in place must be maintained and monitored to ensure they remain effective. The assessment of risk is therefore an ongoing process.

Duty holders must make arrangements to review the legionella risk assessment regularly and also if they believe it is no longer valid.

There are 6 key indicators to know when to review a legionella risk assessment. If any of the following occur then the risk assessment must be reviewed and any changes updated within the document.

6 key indicators to review a legionella risk assessment

1. The water system has been changed or is being used differently
2. The building use changes
3. New information becomes available about the risk or control measures
4. Monitoring indicates the control measures set out in the risk assessment are no longer effective
5. Key changes of personnel, for example; the Duty holder or Responsible person identified in the legionella risk assessment
6. There has been an outbreak of legionnaires’ disease associated with the system

Change to the water system or use

Changes to the water system could include for example; the addition or removal or cold-water storage tanks or other assets such as calorifiers. Changes in pipework or the lay out of the system will also need to be assessed and included in an update. Changes to any given water system can result in deadlegs being inadvertently created, which can provide an environment for legionella bacteria to grow and multiply. It is often the case that changes to a water system can cause little used outlets which again can provide a habitat for legionella bacteria to thrive. These factors would impact the risk associated with a system so the risk assessment and control measures would have to be updated to reflect this.
Up to date schematic drawings showing the lay out of the system within a building must be included within a legionella risk assessment. Should the layout change or any of the assets identified on the schematic change then the drawing must be updated to reflect these alterations. A schematic of a domestic hot and cold water system will include cold water storage tanks, calorifiers, showers, water softeners, pumps, strainers and all outlets within a system.

2. Changes to the building use

Changes to the use of the building can impact the risk if the people using the building are considered to be at a higher risk of infection and are more susceptible to legionnaires’ disease. Alternatively if the use of the water in the building changes, for example; less people are using the building so the water in the system stagnates and little used outlets are effectively created. A building can have an oversized amount of stored water if the use changes from residential to commercial for example.
The risk assessment must also be updated if there is any new construction work which affects the water system. The building of an annex or extension to a property must be reflected in the risk assessment. Clearly any plant or assets which are removed need to also be updated and the impact of this considered in relation to legionella bacteria.

3. Changes to current HSE guidance

A legionella risk assessment should be updated in light of any changes made to the current HSE guidance for the prevention and control of Legionnaires’ disease. When changes are made to the guidance documents it is important to implement these recommendations into the control scheme should they be relevant to your site.

4. Monitoring is no longer effective

The risk assessment will provide the basis for the control scheme and the monitoring which will take place to ensure the control measures are effective. If the monitoring results indicate the control measures are not working or are ineffective then it is crucial to review the legionella risk assessment to make alterations to the regime or recommend an alternative method of controlling the risk of legionella bacteria growing within the system.

5. Changes to key personnel

It is a requirement for employers to appoint an individual(s) to take responsibility for managing the risk from legionella bacteria on their sites. Therefore; should any of these key people change the risk assessment must be updated to reflect exactly who is responsible for what tasks.
Key personnel can include the following:
Statutory site duty holder – a senior executive with budgetary control who ensures that the operation complies with the law, by appointing and overseeing a competent responsible person.
Nominated responsible person – senior staff member who holds budget. This person reports to the duty holder and have day to day responsibility for ensuring that operational duties are carried out in a timely and effective manner, and ensure adequate training and competence of themselves, operational staff and any contractors or subcontractors. This person is also responsible for the accurate audit of the site log book.
Operational staff – duties include inspection, monitoring, implementing, record keeping and carrying out remedial actions. There should be adequate records of their on-going training and regular assessment of their competence.

6. An outbreak of legionnaires’ disease

An outbreak of legionnaires’ disease where the source of infection is traced back to a specific system a complete review of the control measures, records and practice will be investigated. The risk assessment will need to be reviewed to see whether the control measures were being followed correctly and what changes and improvements can be made to prevent any further outbreaks and to reduce the risk to an acceptable level.

Summary

Carrying out a legionella risk assessment is the first step to preventing and controlling legionella bacteria, however it is a process and must be kept up to date for it to remain effective. It is possible for the Duty holder or Responsible person to make some of the changes to the risk assessment document themselves particularly for minor amendments which can often result from a desktop audit. For the more complicated system changes it may be advisable to contact your water hygiene service company and seek their advice about how to update the assessment. By keeping your risk assessment up to date and current you will take comfort from the fact that you are taking all the correct actions to prevent and control the risk of legionnaires disease within the properties you are responsible for.

Further reading:
• ACoP L8 4th edition “The control of legionella bacteria in water systems”.
• HSE HSG274 Legionnaires’ disease: Part 2: The control of legionella bacteria in hot and cold-water systems.
• BS8580:2010. Water quality – Risk assessments for Legionella control – Code of practice.

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